Thursday, May 9, 2013

RYNJ Tuition Remains (Truly) Flat for 2013/2014

Dear RYNJ Parents,

Baruch Hashem, we are close to completing another very successful year at RYNJ. While it is still a few weeks before our doors close for the summer, the planning for our next school year is well underway.

The Board of Directors has approved the budget for the 2013 – 2014 school year. We extend gratitude to our Finance Committee who worked tirelessly to prepare a budget that is fiscally responsible, recognizes and appreciates our staff’s dedication and maintains our commitment to Torah scholarship and academic excellence, while being sensitive to the hardship that paying for a Yeshiva education may create.

It is with great pleasure that I inform you that once again, tuition at RYNJ will remain flat for the upcoming school year. We are proud to have had no significant increase for the past 6 years and we remain committed to keeping our tuition steady for the foreseeable future.

Incidental and trip fees will once again be absorbed by the Yeshiva and will not be charged to parents.

Projected enrollment for 2013 – 2014 is once again at a record high and will necessitate the hiring of new staff to accommodate our growing student body. We are pleased to be providing our returning staff with a modest pay raise.

We have worked diligently and successfully to maintain our financial stability. While some of our costs have gone up and the Yeshiva has invested in numerous areas including professional development and technology to improve the education that we offer, it is a true credit to our administration and lay leadership that tuition remains steady. When factoring in inflation, it actually amounts to a 2% reduction in tuition for the year.

When I wrote to you at the beginning of this school year, I told you that the growth of our student body brings with it some logistical challenges as we must work to find enough room in the building to serve the needs of our children. I have made it one of the goals of my presidency to do whatever is needed to make certain that we do not have to turn away new families due to space constraints. As you may know, due to the very large number of children that we serve, the scheduling of physical education and indoor recess has become exceedingly difficult. With our children’s health and safety as our primary concern, the Board of Directors has begun to research options to alleviate this issue.

Later this week, we will release our 2nd Annual Report representing our continued effort towards transparency in our financials and the security of our financial future. The report is a tremendous accomplishment for the Yeshiva. I would like to express our gratitude to Shira Isenberg, Glenn Pfeiffer, Adina Wiener, Allen Pfeiffer and Uri Jacobs for all their hard work putting it together.

As guardians of our children and grandchildren's education, we remain committed to ensuring that the Yeshiva's finances remain on solid footing. As always, we are dedicated to providing all RYNJ students with a first class Limudei Kodesh and Limudei Chol education. We strongly believe that every Jewish child deserves a Torah education. If this proves to be a burden to any family we will offer financial assistance to those in need.

I invite and encourage you to contact me with any comments, questions or concerns.

Wishing you a Chag Sameach and continued nachas from all of our children.

Azi Mandel
President

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End Welfare · 620 weeks ago

When they get a moment, RYNJ parents should be sure to thank the founders of Heatid for the fact that RYNJ is not raising tuition. Isn't competition great!!! Imagine what legacy school tuition would be now (affordable???) if Heatid had been around years ago.
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Ugh, no one should be thanking He'atid for anything. In fact, He'atid should be prepared to apologize to the entire community in the coming years.

Their marketing, false messaging and creative accounting has convinced the masses that it doesn't cost as much to educate our children as it really does. What they have done it to set up a system where the parents do not see or care how the sausage is made. Their parents' only care is that the extra money it takes to educate their children is not coming from their own pockets.

He'atid is not cheaper model, it is one that is subsidized by large donations given under the guise that they somehow cracked the secret in educating our children for less and have built a sustainable model. Their model is anything but sustainable as it relies on large outside donations to keep tuition low. Remember, money is fungible, whether it comes from the parents as tuition, parents as donations, or outside donors, it still costs the same amount to educate. He'atid has simply spread the cost around to the greater community.

For those that truly understand the dollars and cents of educating our children, He'atid's current plan looks a whole lot like a ponzi scheme that will all come crashing down unless something change (e.g., they receive a huge perpetual endowment, parents put in more money as "donations" or more money as tuition).
the schools have been flat for 3-6 years already.... nothing to do with heatid
Buster (a/k/a as Legacy board member)-- That's right--there never was and never will be a tuition crisis. We are all rolling in the dough. You were off a bit. I think tuition has actually been flat since 1997.
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I am not a board member and I am not rolling in it. There is a "crisis".

I am just looking at fact .Tuition at Legacy's had been flat for several years before heatid was even a thought. There is a "crisis" and the schools have been trying to deal with it for years. How to balance cuts with out sacrificing quality. Keeping tuition flat while giving staff raises and dealing with the across the board increase in of goods and services is monumental. Maybe you don't like the end tuition, but even flat should be looked at in a positive light.

Please explain to me why I am "off" because I am saying that Heatid is NOT the reason way YNJ kept tuition flat 6,5,4 & 3 year ago..am I?

seems like you are the one who is a bit off.
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guest whom · 620 weeks ago

and RYNJ parents should thank He'atid for record enrollment as well. Imagine how much smaller RYNJ would be if He'atid weren't around. Anything else that people should thank He'atid for? Rainbows? Mechanical pencils? Sliced bread?
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Give RYNJ credit · 620 weeks ago

Kudos to RYNJ for holding flat. Will be interesting to see the report, in terms of what happened with per student/family scholarships. Increasing enrollment / efficient use of capacity does wonders for the budget. Keep up the good work, and attracting students with a product families value.
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Just Saying · 620 weeks ago

Silly comments about Heatid driving tuition decisions 3 years before it existed should be ignored by all logical mature people.
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Enough Days off · 620 weeks ago

Logical mature people will also realize that it is highly unlikely that it is He'atid parents making those comments. It is much more likely to be naysayers who are just trying to stir up trouble.
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End Welfare · 620 weeks ago

In my opinion, RYNJ's "record enrollment" has nothing to do with their tuition price and has more to do with the fact that they have a monopoly on the "frum" or "right-wing" of Bergen County. There are certain shuls where you are looked down upon if you send your kids to one of the other "less frum" legacy schools. Also, the more right-wing you are the more children you tend to have (whether or not you can afford to do so), so I suspect this has a lot to do with the record enrollment as well. Again, all this is just my opinion. Feel free to disagree.
Seems odd that a goal of the Presidency is "we do not have to turn away new families due to space constraints". I know nothing about the school, but that comment struck me as odd. If there is not room, why cram in more kids? If the goal is too keep tuition down, cramming in more kids may provide a temporary budget relief, but eventually those kids get bigger and need more space and the need for a larger building grows, which leads to more building funds etc etc.
Yes Name 3. Exactly. Ynj is a school like Moriah that is in transition only unlike Moriah they are much less forthcoming about it. The school is way too large and really unable to adequately handle the children being taken. And not just in terms of space. Ynj has lost a lot of kids. While the letter describes record enrollment it is not where ynj used to be or expected to be. Their preschool has suffered a lot. A. Ifyou ask a board member and he is honest he will tell you heatid has had an effect on the school. A lot of pressure to continue to keep tuition low. And more days of school. They have school on erev shavus this year. Maybe they also had last year but they used to have the day off (as an example)
(Used to be in terms of percentage of kids they expected to enroll). Go to one of the Shabbos parks and unlike most other schools you will hear parents complain all the time about ynj, the teachers, the school. Forget about heatid. Compared to noam moriah yavneh etc there is little to know computer use and the school uses mostly frontal learning. It is behind the times educationally which might not matter if all the teachers were amazing. Why do people still send ? There is a huge herd mentality and people fall back on the hashkafa which is actually quite mixed.
Having said all of the above ynj is trying although they are behind they are looking for fresh youngerteachers and updated teaching ideas. And definitely some credit to them for realizing this is needed
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Actual RYNJ parent · 620 weeks ago

Kjp - my child at RYNJ is working on an independent computer project. My child's teachers use Smartboards. Sure parents have complaints but I hear parents from other schools complain also. Instead of eavesdropping on shabbos and drawing conclusions why not let the school, its students and parent body speak for themselves?
Umm- waht makes you think that kjp is also not an actual RYNJ parent? my child is at YNJ and they have little to no computer use - the school itself will tell you it is not computer ready. And if all classes even have smart boards, that is new just this year becaus as of last year they didnt.
your kidding right - that isn't really factually disproving what he wrote. I send my kid - and i agree most of it - most has been my experience there so far.
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Actual RYNJ parent · 620 weeks ago

OK, so Kjp is a ynj parent who goes to shabbos parks and hears no one criticize any other school and whose child(ren) at ynj experience(s) little or no computer use. I somehow live in Teaneck and have friends with kids at many schools, and hear stuff that Kjp misses. And I somehow got lucky and only my child's teachers use something other than frontal teaching, and use Smartboards while my child uses computers in school. Kjp also has access to board members who tell him/her the truth even if other people think or have heard otherwise. Kjp can see through the claim of record enrollment to numbers which are more accurate because ynj is clearly lying in its letter. Kjp knows that there is an issue of space in a school which just expanded its facilities. So the school's methods are wrong, the parent body is unhappy, the numbers are reducing and the administration is lying. And why is kjp still a ynj parent? I guess, hashkafa...
my experience is that is correct - many YNJ parents send there for the hashkafa. my experiences are that you can get good teachers at the school - but many times you can get teachers who are really not so good. And i am sure other parents criticize their schools- i can't speak for kjp - I just hear a lot of YNJ parents criticizing /unhappy with the school. And it is a fact - the computer usage /up to date education is signfiicantly less than at other schools. The standard for a 5th grade kid is once a week computer time - if that -
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Actual RYNJ parent · 620 weeks ago

I guess I just got lucky. 2 stinker teachers and a whole bunch of good ones. Computer class is once a week, but students do other work with computers under the tutelage of teachers. And I don't fit in with the hashkafa of the school. And from what I have heard of the other schools (I don't go to the shabbos park...it smacks too much of RYNJ hashkafa to do that; I talk to people in other places) my kid's computer use is on par with what really happens at other schools (not what the cheerleaders for them [incl legacies] claim).
my kids computer usage is on par as well - because my kid uses computers at home. nothing having to do with YNJ. And you did get lucky!!
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Your kidding right · 620 weeks ago

So let's see. Since kjp sends to heatid, what do we hear about that school? Well the word on the street is that the first grade is a disaster. They have students with serious learning and behavioral issues but have to keep them all in one classroom so everyone is suffering. The facility is in really bad shape but they can't afford to spend money because the tuition is so low. They were unable to send out accurate report cards even though they claim to be a 21st century school that tailors its approach to every child's needs. They are losing a huge percentage of kids next year because parents aren't happy but talk about the growth in new grades that masks this issue. The parents are sending there to save a few bucks on tuition so they can go on vacation for the holiday even though they know they are shortchanging their children with a sub-par experimental education. But they make themselves feel better by claiming that blended learning is cheaper because one school in the country is doing it.

Yep, I've heard all of this in the park on shabbos so must be true. Give me a break.
Your kidding right - not sure why you are attacking He'atid - does that help disprove what he wrote about YNJ? Please tell me how often a kid in grades 1-5 at YNJ has computers /uses computers? Please tell me the school doesn't have many older /old school teachers that probably should be rotated out but are still there.
As for He'atid - all but one of their first graders are returning - so i am not sure how much of a disaster it can be (that one first grader is making aliyah). They have 3 PKs this year - and that is turning into 4 - most of the prek kids are returning. Overall my understanding is that abouut 8 kids total are leaving the school - several are making aliyah and three are going to Englewood /Moriah for social reasons. And all of their teachers are staying plus new hires. Sounds hugely successful to me.
Get a He'atid parent on here to tell how horrible the school is and maybe i will listen. I just wrote that factually speaking -whether he heard it in the park or not - it is similar to what i have experienced as a parent at YNJ and what my friends who have kdis at YNJ have told me about YNJ.
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Your kidding right · 620 weeks ago

S.P. - you are right. It is disgusting to gratuitously attack a school based on hearsay, especially one that is working hard to help parents with tuition affordability, attracting new families at a good clip and increasing transparency. So why do you and kjl feel the need to attack YNJ?
well i am not attacking based on heresay - i have a kid who goes and another kid who graduated from the school. And you are assuming kjl is - who said he doesn't have a kid who goes - i dont see anywhere in his post that he does or doesn't
it is interesting to me, by the way - that everyone thinks that not increasing tuition is always a good thing. if a school needs to modernize and actually needs to make improvements, maybe a school is doing its students and academic disservice by its only or main goal being keeping tution from going up.
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Your kidding right · 620 weeks ago

and besides being vindictive your point in posting your assertions on a blog are what?
Your kidding right -this blog has had numerous negative posts about Moriah, Heatid and other schools. Why is it you didn't comment on those and ask what their purpose is other than being vindictive?
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Your kidding right · 620 weeks ago

and anytime some is critical of heatid you find the need to defend the school quite extensively, but, you find the need to post such negative garbage about YNJ. Why are you so worried about YNJ's continued success?
I have a kid who still goes to ynj and it is frustrating that those in charge think it is a success because they can cram more and more kids in and because they have raised enough tzedakah to keep tuition low. I consider success in education to be more than just the amount of kids in a school or the amount I am paying. I consider it important for a school to recognize and focus on individual students needs and be up to date with their teachers and their education. If this is a blog about local schools it is fair for me to post my feelings just as much as people seem to think it is fair to point out heatids flaws. The only difference is that I actually know about ynj because I send a child there while most people here have never set foot in heatid.
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If you are sooo unhappy with YNJ and want a more individualized educations experience for your child then why do you keep him / her there?

Bpy and Noam can offer more in that area.

Seems so foolish to complain to vehemently against a school you pay Lots of money too when there are other choices.
Another building fund.....significantly more tuition. ....in theory yes it is easy to change.
And isn't heatid's measure of "success" the same you list for YNJ?

Only for YNJ you see it as is a negative and for heatid it is a supposed positive???

Can't be both....
No it isnt. You must not know anything about heatid or how their model allows for personilazing the education regardless of the number of students
Yup, must now know anything about their model to know that after less than a year they are being deemed a success based in low tuition and more kids.

You can't at this point claim they are successful at individualized education when the bulk of their students are in PK where it doesn't really apply. Maybe they will be, but at this point they can't be considered a success bc of it. I think that's fair to say.
Agreed. Well I would phrase it differently. In terms of everything they planned for and told parents it would be and in terms of their budget after the first year they are a success. Definitely it is still in its early stages and we have to see how it goes.
But the model itself calls for differentiation and that is what was implemented in all the grades prek k and first.
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Your kidding right · 620 weeks ago

I thought this was a blog about tuition. Oh well. You seem very upset and that is a shame. I hope that He'Atid is all you hope for.
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Yes the post was kudos to ynj for keeping their tuition flat and I posted that to be able to do that inthis particular school, parents are sacrificing education that focuses on the individual needs of the students and modernizing the education.
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Your kidding right · 620 weeks ago

kjp - this is your opinion based on your experience or whatever issues you've had. I'm sure there are people now and in the future who will leave He'atid and will say the school is skimping on quality by chasing a low tuition model. Your experience or the experience of S.P. or what you "hear in the park" do not define a school. There are literally thousands of families who are incredibly happy with the education they received at YNJ now and in the past and are thankful for the efforts of the school to keep tuition low. You are using this blog post to express your anger, frustration, whatever. Perhaps this makes you feel better about your decisions about your child's education but please don't try and justify yourself that somehow maligning YNJ serve the betterment of others.
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YNJParent · 620 weeks ago

We are all lucky to live in an area with multiple truly excellent options for elementary school. The discussion at hand is not whether or not one particular family does not feel that a particular school serves their needs, the discussion is about trying to find solutions to the affordability of day school education. If one of the schools is not serving your family's needs, thankfully, there are other options, or you can try and work it out so that the current school is better serving your child's needs. I don't think any of the schools want unhappy students. YNJ has many happy and satisfied families, as do all of the other schools, and they are working very hard to stem the tuition costs, and flat tuition for 6 years is a big deal and should be appreciated.
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Just Saying · 620 weeks ago

kjp makes a good point that tuition reductions can come at the expense of quality. Blended learning can realistically only drive $1,000 in tuition savings. See here www.peje.org/blog/?p=2066 and here http://www.eric.ed.gov/PDFS/ED528948.pdf for good discussions and research on the topic, Given this is the case where does additional savings come from in low tuition schools? Administrators are an easy target but you could eliminate every administrator in a school and not see even a third of the remaining savings. Large class sizes are the most likely bet but the more kids you put into a class room the harder it is for teachers to know each child and do the basic right like fill out report cards accurately. Since He'Atid is leading the charge in the extreme low cost category, and I'm sure its parents have done their research and know blended learning isn't the reason for the savings, I'd like to understand better what they are willing to give up to save money on their child's education.
This is taken from Avi Greengart's post a few weeks ago. Just Saying keeps asking the same question over and over again. You might not like the answer or agree with the answer - but stop saying you would like to know the answer. In addition, you are sighting one study - I am not sure everyone would agree that is conclusive proof. If He'aitd doesn't work, you can say the study is corect. if their model does work then i guess the study is wrong. As of now He'atid is either on budget or under budget in terms of where they projected to be at the end of year 2 (year one being the start up year) Also - note Avi's last point - does the study account for the scholarship money that is currently built into our tuitions? If not, that is another up to $2k if not more that you can subtract. So now you have more than just $1k
'Zoolander, the cost savings are supposed to come from three things:
1. fewer administrators;
2. fewer resources devoted to students who are slower or faster than average. The lecture/group/PC zones and blended educational model is supposed to work better for these students;
3. a focus on keeping tuition at $9K + inflation. Focus matters. It means containing costs rather than expanding offerings to please donor X, parent Y, or teacher Z. JFS in Staten Island has long shown that this is possible, and several Teaneck schools are now prioritizing this as well and have shown that they can keep their tuition flat using their existing model (though not without tough choices). HeAtid also keeps tuition low by not funding Needs-Based Tuition Grants (aka "scholarships") through tuition. All NBTG funding comes from donations. '
BTW- Just saying -since you admit that tuition reductions can come at the expense of quality, i am wondering what the legacy school parents are now giving up on since tuition in many schools has been either reduced or flat - especially because those schools can't claim any special model. Is it that these schools are suddenly able to raise enough $ thru donations that they dont have to raise tuition? Is it that these schools were never operating in a fiscally responsible way? I dont see any of the schools - except for Moriah - admitting to any tough choices or doing anything different in terms of educating the kids but surely they must be.
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When Yavneh cut tuition $100 they increased class size and got rid of assistant teachers in some classes.

I know many full pay parents that would have preferred to pay the extra $100 and have the assistants
Buster,

What makes you think it would have cost only $100 to keep those assistants? Costs go up every year. Until recently schools were increasing tuition annually by about $750. So Yavneh cutting tuition by $100 was actually a cut of $850 per child off what had become the normal tuition increase. That's $2550 for a family with 3 children in the school. Do those parents still feel that they need those assistants?
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Just Saying · 620 weeks ago

S.P. - I ask the question again because the answers are pretty weak. I'm sighting multiple different studies. You haven't sighted one. If you have studies that show this level of savings is possible - bring them on. If you can show how a school can save $4,000- $6,000 that would be great. Writing a list is easy. Can you even back up that schools are spending $2,000 on scholarships that are not already covering with fundraising like He'atid claims it is doing?

To your question of cost and quality only He'Atid is claiming extreme cost cutting. They just don't want to admit that this will likely come at the expense of quality.
To address your last point first - using He'atid's model - please tell me why it wont work and how the model makes it a less quality educaiton or that their set up comes at the expense of quality. Tell me how He'atid's model itself does not specifically call for or incorporate additional students in a classroom and more one on one focused teacher time but less teachers using frontal learning to teach to the class. Tell me what you know about what they are doing and then tell me why the quality will be bad.
To your other points - well isn't YNJ saving $4000-$6000 over let's say BPY? As of now - YNJ is saving at least $4000 over BPY - so i question your general premise that a cost savings isn't possible. Are you saying schools do not build in any scholarships in their tuition? Everyone seems to agree they do - if it isn't that amount - what amount is it?
I got back to saying - have you been to He'atid? Have you seen their set up or model? Their board has publically stated that they are on or under budget for the first two years - and are on track to break even in year three. What are you using to argue against that? If you sight to me point by point in their budget where they are making errors ok.. If you sight to me studies that even mention He'atid ok. If you tell me He'atid wont let you see their budget - you have asked but they wont let you see - i would think you aren't really being forthcoming because others have asked and seen it - but i would say you are still arguing generalities about He'atid without pinpoinint why they will fail.
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Jeez Louise · 620 weeks ago

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guess i am a product of one of the legacy schools here :)

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