Monday, January 7, 2013

Open Letter from Westchester Day School

I think I posted an old letter from WDS yesterday by mistake. here's the more recent letter:

Open Letter on Day School Tuition

As WDS begins an exciting transition period, we wanted to take this opportunity to reaffirm our commitment to addressing the issue of day school affordability. In February 2010, in response to a deepening economic crisis, Westchester Day School received widespread accolades by lowering tuition for the first time in its history. This past Fall, WDS announced another bold initiative and reduced tuition rates in the lower grades by 25% as part of a multi-year plan designed to reset tuition rates across ALL grades over the next seven years. We again received praise from our community Rabbis and virtually the entire parent body, though a small group within Westchester has chosen to respond by opening a competing school.

Over the last four years, WDS has found ways both to cut costs and to increase revenues. This has allowed us to lower our tuition rates without sacrificing our superior educational product and nurturing environment. The latest phase of our initiative, announced this past October, reduced 2013-14 tuition rates in Ganon through 1st grade by approximately 25%, resetting tuition for 1st grade at $13,500 from over $18,500. The goal of our multi-year strategy is to reduce tuition by a significant amount each year for one additional grade so that after seven years the entire school will have a new tuition schedule. This means that over time, a family with three children enrolled in WDS can save over $100,000 (in today's dollars) from the new tuition schedule. In addition to our efforts to address tuition costs, we are very proud to have faithfully adhered to our tenet to not turn away students for financial reasons, as we provide close to 40% of our families with financial aid.

There are two key drivers that make this ‘reset’ sustainable. First, WDS has a debt-free balance sheet, thanks to a history of prudent expenditures, generous community-wide support from a very broad donor-base, and a profitable summer program. Second, our classes are currently operating under capacity, and therefore we can increase our class size without a commensurate increase in expenses. With more students, we can raise revenue and thereby provide lower tuition to our families. WDS is committed to this program, absent any extraneous factors, but only if we meet our enrollment targets – if we meet those targets, the program will fund itself going forward. In short, WDS has rolled out a carefully considered, sustainable model that will provide families with substantial tuition relief while maintaining our high quality of education.

By all measures this initiative should be met with excitement, energy and support. And, for the vast majority of our community, this has been true, and we thank you for your support. However, despite these efforts, a small group has decided to start up a competing school and has been actively recruiting WDS families, something never seen before in the Westchester area.

Over the past 65 years, Westchester Day School has prepared close to 2,000 students for the high schools and ultimately the universities of their choice, instilling them with a love of Judaism and a strong sense of community. WDS provides a proven academic program with a coveted accreditation by the Middle States Association on Elementary Schools, and is situated on a spectacular one-of-a-kind campus. Our talented faculty members, including our specialists (phys ed, music and art teachers, a librarian and a Learning Center team) bring a wealth of experience that cannot be replicated overnight. We take pride in our approach to differentiated learning that provides students with extra support or challenges, we offer stimulating extra-curricular activities, and our children benefit from valued staff members, including our school psychologist, nurse and social worker. Just like any school focused on 21st century education, we have rolled out pilot programs in blended learning, and supplemented our curriculum with computers, SMARTboards, and even our own iPhone app.       

Our pledge is to continue to focus on containing costs, but not to the detriment of the educational, emotional or spiritual growth of our students. We are not willing to do away with resource rooms, over-extend class sizes, hire more junior teachers or frequently turn over faculty in an effort to cut costs. While we will continue to experiment through pilot programs, we are not willing to adopt a new model until there is a curriculum (both general studies and Judaic studies) with a proven academic track record, and one that has demonstrated long-term financial sustainability.

Day schools around the country have a duty to serve their communities. If a community day school chooses to ignore the tuition issue, it ought to face pressure from its constituency.   That has never been the case with Westchester Day School, and is certainly not the case in 2013, as evidenced by our latest initiative. The concept of a new competitor directly undermines WDS’ multi-year strategy of lowering tuition through increased enrollment, putting more pressure on donors in the community and jeopardizing the prospects for tuition relief for all WDS families.  
As we kick off 2013, it is an exciting time for you to be part of the WDS family. You should take great pride in the school and the tremendous value proposition we offer to the community. We are once again taking a leading role in addressing day school affordability, while at the same time we continue to introduce innovative programming and provide a top notch education to our nearly 400 students.
We thank you for your continued support, and look forward to celebrating with you at the upcoming Annual Dinner on Saturday, January 12.

Dan Kosowsky
David Goldschmidt
President
Chairman


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Are there any WDS parents out there? They call it a multi year plan - but it is striking and does speak volumes that the year they are actually able to cut tuition signficantly is the same year that a competing school is opening.
It suprises me that they are so concerned about this 'small group' - if their program is so good and they have all these advantages - why worry about some small group of parents who are starting another school?
WDS has been hurting for a few years. They keep loosing kids to SAR. SAR's tuition is higher but is perceived as a much better school, and therefore worth the extra expense.

With this new price decrease they are now significantly cheaper than SAR and offer way more than a new start up school will. They seem to be banking on the fact that now WDS will be a viable option for the cost conscious families that want a full service school with a beautiful campus.
Maybe one of the reasons the letter was necessary was to clarify the misinformation that is being spread around by the people starting the new school and to make clear WDS's commitment to the new tuition schedule. It's unfortunate that a bunch of hedge fund guys think they know more about running a school than actual educators. Just take a look at an interview with one of their founders where he compares WTA to Wal-Mart (2:35 mark at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47Y2m1Ggsnc). Don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to spend $9-10K per year for an admittedly cheap and stripped down education when I can get all of the bells and whistles from an established school for $3K more.
Buzzkill - where is your proof that it is a 'cheap and stripped down education.?
Yes - do go and listen to what one of the founders says about Wal-Mart - I am afraid it doesn't fit into Buzkill's argument about a cheap and stripped down educaiton. It will fit into the argument that because of the benefits of technology we are now able to get a superior affordable educaiton for less.
Sora - larger class sizes + no resource room + + no gym/art/music teachers + teachers performing the jobs of 5 people + unproven educational model = "cheap and stripped down education". Wal-Mart doesn't charge lower prices b/c of the "benefits of technology." They do it by beating vendors to a pulp, buying in bulk and paying their employees nothing.

Let's be frank. He'Atid and others like didn't discover the computer. They are able to achieve lower prices by loading up class sizes (i.e, buying in bulk) and paying their employees nothing (sorta like asking a teacher to do the job of 5 ppl). You can call that "leveraging technology" and "empowering" the teachers but its really just a nice way of saying "buying in bulk" and paying employees far less than they deserve. Lets see how empowered, or more likely, worn out, these teachers are in a few years without any meaningful raises, because if you ask the founders of the school, real raises are not an option b/c they throw the numbers of their black box model out of whack.
1. He'atid has music, gym, and art. In fact - the gym teacher at He'atid is Mike Dube who is wildly popular in BC -
2. Listen to what the founder is saying - he isn't comparing it to Walmart. He is comparing it to the technology of what has been sold and how we can now get superior items for less. Why would i believe the rest of your argument if you start out by clearly distorting what someone says?
3. I am curious the harm of letting competition play out - Per you, WDS is a great school. Per you, WTA will just have low paid employees and overstuffed classes. Surely parents are smart enough to realize that (although many have come and toured He'atid and seen for themselves before they decided to sign up). Why does WDS care or have to set the record straight - surely the facts will speak for themselves.
1. You have just proved my point. Mike Dube runs his own company, which I would imagine is his primary focus. Instead of having a full time teacher, He'Atid has the functional equivalent of a consultant for a gym teacher. Teachers are the lifeblood of a school. Children are inspired by them, challenged by them and might be the only non-parental adult that a child feels comfortable talking to. If those adults aren't around, b/c they are just consultants for a particular specialty, kids likely won't feel comfortable talking to them. What keeps getting lost in all of these discussions are the teachers. Teachers are not a fungible commodity that you can swamp in and out to keep the machine running. There's a reason schools pride themselves on teachers who have been a school for decades. Btw, what about art and music?

2. I'm not distorting anything. He is analogizing his product to Wal-Mart. He then chooses to distort the analogy by trying to play up the benefits of technology while ignoring what is really going on.

3. First, I've never said WDS is a great school. I'm just commenting on the letter and its relationship to the new schools that are opening. Nevertheless, as I speculated in a prior post, maybe the letter was necessary because of the misinformation being spread around as to WDS's tuition plan. What's the harm in setting the record straight so everyone is operating with the same information?
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Just saying · 638 weeks ago

Sora - first of all, many schools have been working through multi-year plans to keep tuition flat or reduce tuition all before He'atid or any other competitor came into being. You may not like that it takes years for these programs to achieve their results but you feel very comfortable with many years of subsidized tuition for He'atid with millions spent to give a small number of families a tuition break. Double standard?

You also jump on the letter from WDS with the same zeal and disbelief that you deride others for when they question He'atid's claims. With the key difference being that WDS is a real school with a long track record and He'atid and its like are experiments.

Bottom line for many of us is that He'atid is buying students by subsidizing their tuition in the hopes that they can lower costs in the future. There is little to no valid proof that He'atid's model will be as good as current schools or that it can achieve the savings it claims. Almost every parent that is sending there is doing so because of the tuition break and slick marketing to convince them that they are not going to short-change their children with an untested and lower quality education. Your continued defense of the school highlights the insecurity that the school has that people will start to realize that the emperor has no close.
or the continued attacks on hea'tid and now WTA highlights the insecurity of the other schools . . .
Another WTA Open House video interviews a member of AJE. He explains that blended learning is so new and so broad and can be anything from a teacher using a video to a fully on-line courses in your living room . He explicitly says they need to play with the model to see where they will get the best results in order to replicate it at the new schools moving forward.

The kids are literally guinea pigs.
The continued attacks on He'Atid and WTA highlight the misinformation that is being spread by the people running these schools. Apparently, according to Sora, established schools are supposed to just allow the lies to continue to spread with no response. It is truly mind boggling to me that an established school (WDS) is making REAL efforts to substantially lower tuition and Sora wants to talk about how it "speaks volumes" about something as though that takes away from the simple fact that tuition is being substantially lowered.

End Welfare - You also prove my point. I'm not worried about "average" kids. It's the kids who are vulnerable, for whatever reason, who might want to talk to Coach Dube (or whoever else) outside of the classroom, but he's not there b/c he only comes to teach gym, which by the way, makes perfect sense because that's all he's paid to do. If you want a Wal-Mart education, that's what it will look like.
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I used computers and watched videos (we called them movies) when I went to WDS many years ago. I guess that was blended learning as well. Good thing it is so new. That makes me feel younger.
End Welfare - I'm very serious, but I guess since you think the topic of teacher retention and loyalty and student needs is a joke you're a perfect target for He'Atid and WTA. I pray that you only have "average" kids that do not require any additional support or assistance in school.
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Buzzkill - why? are you saying that the blended learning /differentiated learning model He'atid has does not reach any kids other than average kids? Do you know anything about the differentiated learning model He'atid uses? Do you know what differentiated learning is? It would seem not from your posts -
Sora - I know what differentiated learning is and how it claims to work. What I would like to know is how teachers are expected to be responsible for managing the model, preparing lesson plans and handling the various administrative tasks that are dumped on them.
well you can ask random strangers on a blog OR - here is an idea - go visit he'atid and see. take a tour. talk to the teachers who are managing the model, preparing lesson plans and handling the various administrative takses that are dumped on them and ask them. at least then you can get first hand accounts instead of just making up things.
Sora you misunderstand why exactly a school like WDS is so against the emergence of a school like WTA. Yes, in traditional business customers benefit from competition for two reasons. First, competition forces businesses to consolidate costs to lower prices, and second, competition forces businesses to maximize the quality of its product. I understand why a group of hedge fund managers would believe that “the Yeshiva industry” should be treated the same way.

However, there is one major flaw in their thinking: the motivations for a school to improve (and by improve I specifically refer to a school (1) minimizing its tuition and (2) maximizing the quality in education) are NOT the same motivations behind businesses in a tradition industry. A school like WDS, which is the only Yeshiva in the Westchester area, is not interested in lowering tuition and maximizing the quality of its education so it can poach students from other schools. They are interested in lowering tuition and maximizing the quality of its education so it can provide the best possible education at the most reasonable price for its families. WDS’s success is not measured by the success and failures of its competitors because Yeshivas are not really competitive with one another: they all have the same goal. Therefore, a Yeshiva’s focus is not to put out the best product in comparison to other Yeshivas, but to put out the best product possible.

The problem with WTA is that it does not let WDS try and do that.

What needs to be understood is that for a school the size of WDS, (and WDS is relatively small compared to other K-8 Yeshivas) costs are not determined on a student-by-student basis. Most of their costs are fixed regardless as to how many students enroll each year. Furthermore, WDS is not interested in making a profit; their sole objective is to educate their students today and for years to come. Therefore, when WDS tries to figure out how much to charge in tuition, they are simply trying to calculate how much they can afford to charge without putting the school in financial danger. It is also significant to note that even while this is the thinking behind WDS’s tuition number, the number that is ultimately asked for does not even cover these costs. WDS is only able to stay afloat based on the many donations they receive each year.

One of the major ways WDS can lower tuition costs is by having the school operating at full capacity. Since their costs are relatively fixed, WDS only stands to benefit from every student who enrolls because it means more revenue for the school. And because WDS exists for the benefit of its families, it will use this extra revenue for the sake of its families: it will lower the costs of tuition, and will reinvest in the institution to maximize the quality of its education.

A school like WTA tries to poach students by offering a lower price for its education. It then demonizes a school like WDS by claiming it unfairly charges its “customers” and that it is ignorant of advancements in technology that can change the way schools operate. WTA has tried to frame the argument as a debate over two questions:

1. Should we be exploring how we can use advancements in technology to better our schools?

2. Is Yeshiva education too expensive?

WTA has tried to paint WDS as a school that is on the wrong end of both of these questions. In reality this could not be further from the truth. WDS believes that we should be using technology in our schools and that tuition is too expensive. WDS is not against WTA because they are against their philosophy; they are against WTA because of what WDS stands for, namely to put out the best product for its families.

When WTA takes students from WDS, WDS is no longer able to use the revenue from those students’ tuition to improve their school and to lower tuition costs. By not operating at full capacity, they cannot provide the best possible education for its families. WTA has argued that their school is validated by the fact that WDS is so threatened by them but this could not be further from the truth. Yes, WDS is threatened by WTA, but only because WDS appreciates the importance of each and every student in its school. WTA claims that it is going to change education of the future for the better while in reality all they are only ruining Yeshiva education in the present. Perhaps, they should be looking to help other schools in their mission by providing the invaluable insight they have as “technological educators.” The goal should not be to have the best school out there but the best school possible.
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Randy - From what I understand, the people starting WTA did approach WDS to work with them. The terms of the negotiation were in the form a threat - Make all of the changes we demand or we open a new school and compete with you. Obviously, a reasonable approach when trying to create a better school.
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Aren't all schools employment opportunities for rabeiim and administrators? Not sure how that is an argument against legacies....
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Just saying · 638 weeks ago

Sora - you last post is offensive. Do you really believe that people are opening up schools or going to work for them to make money off the community? Oh please, if you did even a bit of research you would see that this thought process would be incredibly misguided given how poorly schools pay. Cut out perpetuating the stupid stereotypes that Chump started. You do your cause no favors.
i think the point is that schools are businesses - Randy's post seemed to say they are being run solely for the good and benefit of the community and clearly it is not the case.
It seems that Westchester is where BC was last year. The fact is that WTA is going to open the same way is as He'atid did. There will be close to 200 children attending He'atid next year - the time to debate whether it should exist or not is long past. WDS should concentrate on itself and its ability to make the education good for its students. WTA recently sent out a letter that they not only have enough students to make a Prek and K but also now to open a first. They have hired a principal and have secured a building. It seems silly to debate the merits of whether it should open or not.
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Day school parent · 637 weeks ago

What I think Sora is saying is that our local rebbeim and community leaders, many of whom have a personal stake (their parnasa) in the existing legacies are not going to come out in support of a new school that will either 1. affect enrollment in their own schools or 2. cause them to make serious cuts in their budgets to lower tuition. It's disappointing that our rabbis in BC can't see how much people are suffering under the current tuition burdens and do not come out in support of a local affordable alternative. There is a major conflict of interest - what could be good for their congregants is not good for their pockets.
Which pulpit rabbi's are employed by local elementary schools?

I can't think of any.......
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Day school parent · 637 weeks ago

Firefly - I will not start naming names, but at least 5 Teaneck pulpit rabbis are actually employed by Yeshivas in the NY area (elementary and/or HS) - HS is relevant as I'm sure they know that a He'atid type HS is next...
Additionally many of our shuls' Board leadership sit on legacy school Boards or are employed by these same schools.
I dont think it is the place of the community rabbis to tell the schools how to operate. I do think it is their obligation to encourage the community to keep their tzedaka local and give to the schools. The helps the bottom line.

I think it is naive to think that bergen county elementary schools are not lowering tuition so that pulpit rabbi's of high schools and schools in NY can have jobs. That's basically what you are saying. These rabbi's have no vested interest whatsoever.
Firefly, let's say all the Rebeiim and community leaders are altruistic and they really want what is best for the kehila. Clearly the people who are sending to WTA do not feel their needs are being met - whether for financial, educational or other reasons. They should have options. Why should they be forced - and clearly there are enough of them to make up at least three grades in a new school - to send their children to a school that is not meeting their needs?
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Day school parent · 637 weeks ago

Firefly - you misunderstood me - I don't think they are not lowering tuition. It's very hard to lower tuition under the existing models anyway. What I do think is that they are noticeably silent about other options, or even worse are trying to undermine them and that is what I object to. Families are in serious pain due to the inaffordability of tuition. Not one rabbi publicly came out in support of He'atid last year. And from what I've heard, the rabbis in Westchester are actually leaning on WTA to stop with their plans.
Day school parent - Read the WDS letter. The ability to lower tuition by 25% is premised on increasing enrollment. Therefore, by opening a new school, at least in Westchester, the ability to carryout that plan is jeopardized. It's pretty obvious why people have been discouraging the founders from starting WTA.
ok but who says that plan is a good plan and is enough? what about the people in the community who can't afford WDS - why aren' t the Rabbis / Community leaders looking out for them? What are they supposed to do until WDS is able to carry out their plan? And once they do reduce their tuition over a course of many years, how do they know it is enough? who says people can afford $13,500? Why does WDS think that what they are doing is the answer to everyone's tuition problems? All the founders of WTA did was open a school. If WDS was filling the community's need, no one would have registered.
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Day school parent · 637 weeks ago

So just because WDS woke up and said - wow we have a tuition crisis we better do something about it - and the only way we can address this problem (which has been a problem for YEARS) is to fill every seat - anyone who doesn't cooperate is the bad guy?? that's nuts. I understand their plan is only possible if people enroll, but they should have thought about that earlier. Why weren't they maximizing class size 4 years ago? or 3 years ago? Because no one was forcing them to!! WDS parents should thank WTA for pushing down prices. Just like legacy parents in BC, instead of attacking He'atid, should be grateful,. Even if they are not benefitting from the amazing $9K tuition, they are benefitting from their reduced tuition (in most schools), better calendar (in some) and increased technology. Would they have eventually gotten there? Yes, of course. But schools like He'atid and WTA are speaking loudly enough that schools are FINALLY listening.
the issue that is going to have to be addressed sooner or later is whether 4 kids in public school is better than 1 or 2 in yeshiva. the economy isnt getting any better and the community can not continue to subsidize 1/2 the population. people are going to have to have less kids or send to public school the low cost yeshivas are not going to be the solution.
but for some, for now, they are. more so than what was there before.
sora i believe the low cost schools are a temporary band aid not a solution. he atid is giving out financial aid too so clearly people cant even afford that. apparently 30-50% of all legacies are on financial aid and applications are up each year. no business can survive like this.
maybe - my understanding is that proportionally he'atid is giving out less scholarship - that in the majority of cases people are only getting a few thousand in scholarship so if a school can cut tuition by that amount it reduces scholarship. but you might be right - and either way - people keep talking about the public school /talmud torah set up. why doesn't someone actually do something about it? get a group of people to make it a viable option. for some, it never will be - some will never send their kids to public school. but others might want to and need to. If people are waiting for the support of community leaders - based on what has happened with he'atid, they will be waiitng forever.
if he atid is 8k and they are giving out a few thousand dollars in financial aid that isnt so good. means people are only paying 5k!!
no - i am saying that the majority of people at legacy yeshivas on scholarship are only getting a few thousand dollars in aid - very few get more than that and still fewer get the majority or even all of their tution as scholarship. Therefore, if a school can lower its tuition by a few thouand dollars, then those families no longer need scholarships. That is why proportionally He'atid gives out many fewer scholarships and why it might be an answer - not necessarily the only answer, but an answer.
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Day school parent · 637 weeks ago

Guess that makes sense. if legacy Yeshivas charge $15K, they are likely not giving more than $6K per kid.
novel idea how about people grow up and send to whatever school they can actually afford on their own? if you cant afford legacy send to he atid if you cant afford he atid send to public.
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Light Of Israel · 637 weeks ago

@ Grow Up Simple answer to your question - because they don't have to.

As long as the schools will discount the price, aka scholarship, for those who can't pay the normal price, people make decisions that don't make sense. It's another reason (among several) why the scholarship system has actually decreased price pressures on existing schools. Think about it - "you can't afford it, we'll discount the price." If on the other hand, you could only spend what you could afford (which is the normal for a capitalistic system that works to lower prices), lower cost options might be more viable - more customers. Chalk it up to misguided chessed morals.
the fact that schools operate by "discounting" prices for people who will never be able to pay full price/ shouldnt be living here in the first place makes it much harder for the rest of us who are forced to subsidize tuition.
your tuition would be higher without these "discounted" prices since these would be empty seats in an operation where the incremental cost per child is minimal compared to the general fixed overhead costs.

You are minimally subsidizing others. Community donations are heavily subsidizing everyone. We all should be thankful to them!
i completely disagree. i have no problem giving aid to people who need it very temporarily but for people who move to a community knowing that they will never be able to afford the schools and assume that the community will pay for their 4 kids to go to school is just wrong. if all that aid was taken away schools would shrink in size and be forced to merge and opperate in a much more cost effective manner. I have no problem with people who earn less than 200k (because thats the min that it costs to send 4 kids to yeshiva) living in teaneck but then they should be ok sending to public school which i dont think is such a horrible thing. it is time people act like adults and have the amount of kids they can afford and send them to whatever school they can afford.
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Akiva Hillel · 637 weeks ago

I heard the founders of WTA offered WDS their startup budget (building fund) of 5 Million dollars to adopt an affordable model with minimal strings attached and that WDS turned it down because they thought that WTA was two year away from starting. The executive miscalculated and not only did they allow another school to start in competition they breached their fiduciary duty to act in the best interests of their school. They should all resign instead of spreading email lies that they were planning to reduce tuition before the completion came along. The truth is that they raised tuition 4 of the past 5 years. Not the behaviour of a school who planned on reducing tuition.
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The question I have is how the combination of (i) WTA and (ii) tuition decreases and a dynamic and well respected new head of school at WDS going to have on SAR in 3 to 5 years if SAR continues to raise tuition on an annual basis
firefly you are wrong about the teaneck public schools they are running at very low capacity and would greatly benefit from having an influx of kids. taxes would not be raised the schools would just run much more efficiently.
he'atid is providing a scholarship to everyone in the school regardless of whether they can pay full freight or not. the legacy schools are providing scholarship only to those who pass their screens and are charity cases. pick your poison but as someone who is not on the receiving end for either of these scholarships, id rather donate to a fund for those who are in need than give to an across the board subsidy.
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strange - you are saying that those at legacy schools are paying the exact cost of their educaiton and that all the money a school raises thru dinners, scholarship funds and all the money a school gets from Avichai, other grants, and any donations solely goes to those who apply for scholarships and aren't used to subsidize the cost of every student's education?
i think the entire situation stinks. if the community stopped making the public schools sound so bad and terrifying people into going bankrupt and sending to yeshiva maybe people would send where they could actually afford and not be so miserable. public school plus talmud torah is definitely not the end of the world and you dont have to be impoverished to send. if sending to public school allows for families to have one parent home and reduce the stress level that might not be such a bad thing. sending to yeshiva but being miserable and fighting all the time isnt going to make for happy jewish children.
end welfare - i suggest you apply for a scholarship and see how easy it is to game the system and how gruesome the process is. you can believe what you want. i believe that 99.9% are people in real need.

sora - yes, fundraising covers most if not all scholarships. obviously depends on the school. what is clear is that heatid is using its fundraising to subsidize tuition both those who can and those who can't afford it. i'm sure this makes their parents happy and i guess aje is happy providing these funds. for me, id rather donate to help those who are real charity cases. not a middle income subsidy.

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