Wednesday, March 20, 2013

BPY Increases, Moriah stays flat for 2013/2014

Link to the right shows the new BPY tuition schedule.  Tuition stays flat for Pre-K though they still haven't cut tuition for that grade as every other BC school has in order to compete with some of the new low-cost options.  1st-4th grades go up by $400 & 5th-7th goes up by $600.  They sent this letter explaining it.

Meanwhile, Moriah announced that they are keeping tuition flat for next year though they are adding a $285 assessment per family to cover security upgrades. They are also adding 5 more days to the calendar.  See their letter here.

As the letter explains, Moriah is making some budget cuts to reflect their smaller enrollment, which is something Westchester Day School should consider now that they have a low-cost competitor poaching some of their students.


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End Welfare · 627 weeks ago

Holy crap! Somebody correct my math if I did it wrong, but according to my calculation, to send one child to BPY (1st through 4th grade) costs over $18,600 all-in. Could this be correct? If so, it is literally over twice the cost of Heatid.
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Diggler · 627 weeks ago

Your math is wrong

1st through 4th is $18150.00
Registration: $750
Tuition: $14,600
Building Fund: $1,500 (starts in K total is $7000)
Family Obligation: $1,300
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End Welfare · 627 weeks ago

I suppose it depends whether you register early enough to get the discounts. You also forgot to include the trip fees. In any case, it is above $18k. That is nuts (not that the other legacy schools are much better).
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End Welfare · 627 weeks ago

I should add to my post above that this cost assumes no hot lunch (if so, you are over $19k) and assumes you don't get hit with any late fees.
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Buster · 627 weeks ago

Moriah slaughtered their staff.
* cut tuition discounts significantly for all staff
* will no longer contribute towards pensions
* no raises
* fired many old-time teachers.

Many staff will now come home next year with the equivalent of 10-30K less than in their pockets over this year.

Pissed off, angry and bitter staff does not lead to better educational experience for the students. With these kinds of cuts, Moriah should have been able to lower tuition. Instead, they are still one of the highest tuitions and they have staff that is not motivated. Not sure this was so well played on their part.
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End Welfare · 627 weeks ago

Maybe "the man" knew what he was talking about when he said that it is difficult, if not impossible, to transform an existing legacy school into an affordable school and that is why a new school with a fresh and new model was needed.
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Buster · 627 weeks ago

No worries -- the teachers at the "fresh and new model" are also revolting about their calendar. Seems like they want to be like everyone else.

Slowly this model will turn into that similar to the legacies.
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Yeshiva_Dad 69p · 627 weeks ago

Moriah just added 5 days so seems like the "legacies" are moving more towards He'atid's calendar & not the other way around.
-YD
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Dolly · 627 weeks ago

Didn't GD promise at the first open house school on chol hamoed sukkot and erev chag?

Well, we see how that worked out since they were closed chol hamoed. Lucky for them, erev chags were Sunday this year. Let's see what happens next year ......
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Yeshiva_Dad 69p · 627 weeks ago

I heard him say erev shavuot & election day. Never heard him say anything about chol hamoed or erev other chagim.
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End Welfare · 627 weeks ago

"Slowly this model will turn into that similar to the legacies."

Maybe yes, maybe no. Nobody knows what the future will hold with any certainty. What is certain, is that right now, there is thousands of dollars to be saved by sending to the "fresh and new model"
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Dirk · 627 weeks ago

bPY is the only school with no days off for chol hamoed succot and had 164 days on this year's calendar
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Buzzkill914 · 627 weeks ago

Something WDS should consider? Do you know anything abt enrollment at WDS? Clearly not.
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Yeshiva_Dad 69p · 627 weeks ago

Buzzkill,

See the open letter they sent out that I put on the blog on January 7th: http://yeshivasanity.blogspot.com/2013/01/open-le...

They clearly implied that the new school would hurt their enrollment which would cause tuition to rise because of their fixed costs. My point was that Moriah is adapting to the lower enrollment by cutting costs. WDS should do the same.
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Buzzkill914 · 627 weeks ago

Implied? You really expose how foolish you are when you say things like that, with no basis in fact.
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Anon · 627 weeks ago

and here I thought the big news of the day was that Tiferet decided to throw in the towel and merge with HALB.
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Yeshiva_Dad 69p · 627 weeks ago

Anon,

Is that true? I hadn't heard it. Did they send out an email that you could forward to me?
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Buzzkill914 · 627 weeks ago

just check the website: http://www.tiferet.org/
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Name3 · 627 weeks ago

It's amazing what can be done when the existing institutions have the leadership to work with the upstarts, rather than against them. Best of luck to the HALB/Tiferet initiative. Certainly shows belief in the educational model by adopting blended learning for the younger grades (and moving it up as the grades progress).
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newsflash · 627 weeks ago

I heard a bunch of YH parents are pissed.
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Name3 · 627 weeks ago

I don't know why they would be pissed. What's going on at HALB is a complete different situation to YH.
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Anonymous · 627 weeks ago

Feel bad for tiferet parents who are left in a lurch now that they are calling it quits. I wonder which school heatid is going to "merge" with.
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Name3 · 627 weeks ago

I hear YH will have over 200 kids next year. I can't imagine another school has 200 open seats to do a merger. I think YH will be fine on its own.
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Buster · 627 weeks ago

i think they will be fine but I don't think they will be better or superior. I think they will be just good enough for the parents.

Noam and Yavneh are doing far superior things with technology than Heatid and they don't claim to be the blended learning or technology schools.
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Guest · 627 weeks ago

Pretty funny how the Tiferet guys try spinning their failure. Pretty sad that people on this site actually believe it...
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Guest2 · 627 weeks ago

Yeshiva,
Why the obsession with Westchester on a BC blog? I did hear the new school there is struggling to open a 2nd grade with only 7 kids signed up.
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Yeshiva_Dad 69p · 627 weeks ago

Guest2,

The success or failure of the He'atid clones in Westchester & LI reflect on whether or not He'atid's model is truly transforming the Jewish Day School world. Also, Westchester is pretty close. There are Westchester students in some of our schools, especially high schools, so it's not too far for BC residents to commute to Wetchester schools.
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Yeshiva_Dad 69p · 627 weeks ago

Opening up a 2nd grade in a new school is always very hard. Parents are reluctant to take their kids out of an existing grade school that they already started in. That's why most start-ups begin with only pre-school & sometimes 1st grade.
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End Welfare · 627 weeks ago

Agreed. That is why the man and Heatid were smart as to not try and open up a k-8 all at once. Steady and slow is the way to go.
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Teaneck · 627 weeks ago

WOW - big news. First YH model in MD folds and does not even open. Now, the one in LI "folds" and is swallowed by another existing school before it opens. This does not sound like the trend of the future. Many parents, even if they cannot afford yeshiva, will not play with their children's education.

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