Tuesday, May 1, 2012

Councilwoman Toffler Responds


Below is the exchange I had with Dr. Barbara Ley Toffler, who is running for re-election to the Teaneck town council.  See my letter to all the candidates that I posted yesterday.  I'm not commenting on the response - I think you can all make your own determination on where the Councilwoman stands on these issues.  

Please be respectful.  I'm turning on moderation for this post. 
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COUNCILWOMAN TOFFLER:      Dear YD (wish I knew your name, Always more comfortable to write to real person!)

I think your questions fall under the broad category of distributive justice. How do we distribute limited resources among a wide range of stakeholders. For such questions I like to think about the philosopher John Rawls “Theory of Distributive Justice” which addresses many questions about the “fairest,” most just way of giving out limited supplies of what is needed.

For example, Rawls’ theory was used to develop the triage plan for rescuing  battlefield injured.  While for most of us the answer for who to rescue first would be: the most severely injured, the actual triage guideline is to rescue the most severely injured who are likely to survive if they receive early medical intervention. The most severely injured who will die no matter what, are to be left til later.

Another example is research funds. If any granting institution were to say that they will divide monies equally among all proposals, chances are no one would receive sufficient money to get the research done. Thus criteria are set, and distribution is done by those criteria, leaving some worthy recipients empty-handed.

And of course there are situations where equality is the just decision. As I used to talk about with my children: How should all the ice cream in the world be divided up. Answer (tho not usually from them) is: Equally!! (each of the kids would say “so I get the most!”)

Where am I going with this?  The key to effecting the Rawls’ theory is his concept of the “original veil.” As a decision-maker, one must put oneself behind an original veil, i.e. one must think of oneself as NOT YET BORN: not knowing what your race, religion, ethnicity, socio-economic status, country of birth, etc. will be. Then – look at your distributive question, and decide what criteria for a just decision you would set NOT KNOWING who you would be.

Would be interesting for a group of us to sit together and tackle your questions behind the original veil.

Best regards,

Barbara
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YD:     Barbara,

Thank you for an interesting and thought provoking response.  I apologize for writing under a pseudonym.  Please understand that as a moderator of a blog where controversial and often emotionally charged issues are discussed I really need to keep my identity hidden.  

I understand making decisions under the principle of the "original veil", I just don't know if people should vote under that principle.  In other words should they vote having in mind the interests of all of humanity?  Or should they have in mind their own interests and allow democracy to select the candidate who represents the interests of the most individuals.  Regardless of how people "should" vote we all know that most people choose the latter.

All that aside, simply on the basis of fairness we need to ask whether or not the public subsidy of education should at least in part be available to those who choose to send their children to a religious school (though certainly we wouldn't expect the public to fund the religious studies).  So I'm asking you what your opinion is on that.  If you choose not to answer I understand.  But I think it's fair of voters to ask the question.

Finally I just want to confirm that you are ok with me making this conversation public on the web.

Thank you again for your time.

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COUNCILWOMAN TOFFLER:   Certainly you may make our conversation public on the web. When I was young, I desperately wanted to attend a private school for children in the performing arts. My cousin was a successful child actress and attended one such school. My parents would have none of it. They believed in public education, period, I could take drama and dance lessons (or religious, art or swimming classes) after school. Doesn't exactly answer your question, I know.  Have a good Shabbos.


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We must end this nonsense in our town. Everyone points fingers, but no one ends the nonsense. We have people filing suit against the town, but claiming "I was forced" to do it due to the rest of the board's actions. Well, to demonstrate that point, couldn't councilwoman Toffler simply held a press conference, issued a public letter or some other publicity stunt to bring home her point? No, ME FIRST - not the town or the taxpayer? Interesting that the Judge sided with Teaneck, not the Councilwoman who alleged she had her rights violated.

We need the masses to see things from a REALITY perspective. Also, we also need to put our children first. They don't have representation in the VOTE. No kid, be it public, prep, parochial, charter, etc. should need to have a dangerous route to a bus stop. There are perhaps a million ways to adjust a budget to ensure we find money for things like this. Children must come first and some people think backroom deals, alliances with unions and other priorities come before the children - all the children of Teaneck.

Teaneck needs to become one united, strong block of people with similar goals. Quality education for all of our children. Quality and accessible services for all of our residents and businesses. Attraction of more businesses and corp tax dollars, to make Teaneck affordable and sustainable not just for the wealthy elite and upper middle class, but any family that wants to reside in this great town.

As President Obama asks: Are we ready for change? The answer is yes. Now, people, go out and vote and let's get the changes starting next week.

Finally, YD: Councilwoman would not comment directly to your questions because she will be forced to answer them negatively or conflict with prior responses on the record!!!
Wow. That is really condescending. I think I'm going to vote as if she was NOT YET BORN.
Anyone who is quoting Rawls on a political question is either

A) A high school debate student

B) A leftist (not a liberal, but a hard core statist leftist)

You have your answer, they'll help the public school students, and leave yours twisting in the winds.
Honestly, anyone who has lived here more than a few years should know Toffler's position vis a vis our community. Here's an example:

Dr. Toffler’s anti-Orthodox attitude was disseminated on the pages of the New York Times in 2007, when she told a reporter, “People worry that there’s a group that wants this [Teaneck] to become an Orthodox community like some of the ones in Rockland County. This has always been an incredibly diverse community, and from my perspective, I don’t want it to become any one thing.”

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