Sunday, April 28, 2013

2 Days Left to be BOLD



The BOLD initiative, sponsored by the AJE Project, The AVI CHAI Foundation, and the Kohelet Foundation, is offering grants to existing schools to implement Blended Learning

Schools have until 4pm this coming Tuesday to apply.

I still have a few questions that the BOLD website left unanswered.  These are not rhetorical questions that are intended to provoke skepticism.  These are genuine questions that if answered satisfactorily could allay some of the skepticism found on this blog & various other media.  Perhaps one of our readers can elucidate.

First, "schools have realized overall operating cost reductions of 25% and per pupil cost savings of $1000"  What does this mean?  Are these two separate cost savings, one per pupil and based on the total operating costs, that can be added up?  Why not simply combine them since most operating costs can be calculated per student.  If they are one and the same, just two different ways to calculate the same savings, $1,000 seems like a lot less than 25% based on the tuitions of most local schools.

Second, the following are listed as methods used by blended learning to reduce costs:

  1. Reducing and repurposing existing curricular and text budgets
  2. Redefining teacher and staff roles and reallocating personnel resources
  3. Increased class size coupled with greater personalization
  4. Increased student enrollment fostered by innovative programs and personalized learning

Could we see some specific examples of these methods being used at He'atid or other schools?  For item #1 are textbooks really a significant portion of the budget?  are they less than technology costs?  Doesn't the State partially subsidize them?

Are teachers doubling as administrators or vice versa as point #2 seems to suggest?  Are they doing it more than, say, Noam, which has always had administrators teaching a few subjects

For #3 are student teacher ratios significantly different at He'atid or other blended learning schools than they are at traditional schools?  Can we get some numbers on that?

For #4 does increased enrollment lead to lower costs per student?  What if the building is already at capacity or if more enrollment means you need to expand or move?

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Good legitimate questions YD. By asking readers to answer your questions you are just inviting people with little knowledge to speculate and present what they think they know as facts. Didn't someone from AJE once post here ? If you want more details why not ask him to post again.
1 reply · active 621 weeks ago
KJP,

i feel a little weird approaching people with questions with an anonymous name. I can use my real name but them I'm pretty much giving up anonymity. If anyone wants they can copy & paste my questions in an email to AJE or anyone else & let me know how they respond.
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Just Saying · 622 weeks ago

YD - you should listen to the webinar on the website. It raises another question. According to their expert blended learning has only been tested in math and a few other topic. No Jewish studies yet. How can I school expect to see significant savings if only using blended learning in a small portion of their subjects?
Daniel take a tour of heatid. You will better understand how the personalization and the rotations and the one on one works. You are making a lot of assumptions that aren't true. Such as some students not being served or kids sitting just waiting for their one on one time.
Also you need to realize these teachers are trained differently. It isnt just taking teachers used to teaching.
The teachers at heatid all taught in other schools and were trained to work with the model. Changes and tweaks were done throughout the year. Heatid has amazing teachers so it is possible to find them. It takes a teacher who is interested in learning new things and who is enthusiastic and has a lot of energy who will want to learn a new model and style of teaching and the heatid kids are benefitting from that.
That is exactly it. You are taking the model you know and worked with and are trying to imavine one on one time and small group time and differentiating the learning within the model you know. That isn't what heatid is. It is not sticking 26 kids in a classroom as you knew it. Teachers who came to heatid had years of experience too. They had to be trained in the model. It is a completely new way of thinking and teaching. So it is not that certain parts of your experience are inaccurate. They are just more likely irrelevant in terms of what you would have to learn in order to teach in the heatid model.
Btw the teachers at heatid now certainly seem to have embraced the model and believe it works. Many of them have years of teaching experience. Why are you with your teaching experience more knowledgable than they are? They spent almost every evening last summer before heatid opened learning how to implement this model. They really must see something worthwhile to invest that time and energy to learn and implement something new. (It is also kind of silly t o that end to think that all that training and all that goes into learning and producing the model can be explained in a paragraph or two on a blog. )
Daniel the tour wont tell you everything but it will give you some sort of foundation so you have at least a. Basic understanding of what goes on. I am not sure why you think posting on here will give yoh more accurate information than at least visiting the school. I am also not sure how you could think you have enough information to be against the model if you have never really visited the school and dont really know what goes on there.
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Teacher99 · 621 weeks ago

Daniel, i enjoy reading your informed opinions about teaching methods. Unfortunately, it is a waste of time to argue with anyone drinking the heatid kool aid. This started even before the school began, when they peppered their presentation with fancy terms like "flip model" and "blended learning", even though virtually none of the presenters (including GD!) had ever either taught, been taught or utilized any of these methods. When it was further proven from THEIR OWN DATA that not only were the results inconclusive, but that everyone agreed these methods NEVER worked for younger grades, they would just attack you.

When you drink the kool aid, you believe the following as Torah M'Sinai:

1. Heatid is the only model that works
2. Heatid has a superior model to every other educational institution.
3. All other schools are either wastes of money or just ripoffs.
4. You don't understand the financial model because we won't tell you how it works.

Anyone familiar with Bernie Madoff?
The only people drinking the Kool Aid are the ones who believe that their Day School (including Yavneh, NOAM, BPY. Moriah, RYNJ, He’Atid) provides world class education. If you want a great Jewish education then move to Israel. If you want a great secular education then Teaneck has some pretty amazing public schools. The day schools simply do not have the resources to provide a world class education. To really pull that off with a dual curriculum, the tuition would probably have to around 30-35K minimum per child. As long as the school is not a disaster, your children will do as well as the amount of time you spend with them and your attitude towards education as a parent. I have second grader in one of the legacy schools, which in fine for him but I am not terribly impressed. I have another child going pre-K in He’Atid and no I don’t consider myself a risk-taker or someone gambling with my child’s future. I have met some of this year’s first graders and they are doing just as well or better then kid’s in other schools. If the school’s model is not financially viable they will have to raise tuition; at least they are trying. Worse case scenario, the school has to shut down the children have to go to a different school; it's not an ideal situation but it happens and kids will adjust pretty quickly.
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Just Saying · 622 weeks ago

It is nice to be enthusiastic about an approach and a school but it is important to be grounded in the facts. YD, to your questions, the schools most often cited as leading successes in blended learning are seeing about 10 to 15% in savings. The best example is Rocketship but schools like KIPP and Carpe Diem are other examples. There are still a lot of questions. Rocketship hasn't seen real savings because they invested the money back in teachers. A wise investment and likely the reason they are seeing great educational results. Carpe Diem has 75-to-1 pupil-to-teacher ratio. This surely drives savings but not something many parents feel comfortable with. Blended learning is something all schools should pursue and it is great that BOLD is willing to provide funding but expectations should be set based on realistic assumptions and not irrational exuberance.
I'm just speculating (though yes, I have toured He'Atid), but I'd bet most of the cost savings of He'Atid comes from the small number of administrators.
They are dealing with self scholarship where parents just stop paying. Interesting to see how that factors in the future.
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End Welfare · 621 weeks ago

Can we please refer to "needs based scholarships" as what they truly are: WELFARE. We need to stop sanitizing things. If you are on scholarship than you are on welfare.
I agree with you, End Welfare. At a minimum, call it Tzedaka. If we called it that then maybe families would treat it as such. Nothing hurts more than when the scholarship family down the street buys their kid the latest IPOD TOUCH. That family should realize that when they take scholarship money and do that, they are taking Tzedakah to pay for things like IPOD TOUCHs.
A 15% cost savings would, in South Florida where tuition collection runs around 50%, be at LEAST a 30% tuition reduction. In Teaneck, where it appears to run 67%, you're still talking about a 22% reduction in tuition.

In addition, since lowering tuition means more people can afford full, your collection rate could increase, so you could lower tuition further.

So saving 15% could easily, depending on markets, result in a 25%-40% tuition reduction.

Which puts you slightly higher the He'atid. Take out the bloated administrative costs of the legacy schools, and you are in the same ball park.

The problem with the school finances is that decisions are NOT made by financial people, so they make no consideration for: if I increase costs $1000/student, and 50% of my kids are "paying what they can afford," I need to increase tuition $2000/student.

Small changes in costs pay BIG dividends for tuition numbers.
Al,

In Teaneck, tuition collection runs around 80%. If you lower tuition you collect the same amount you collected before. People are asked to pay what they can afford, not a percentage of tuition. Savings 15%, if it was even possible, would not save you much more than 15%. Heatid only has a lower tuition because they raise a very high proportion of fundraising relative to the size of the school. As they grow or this fundraising goes down they will struggle to keep tuition low. The problem is that people who have very little insights into the facts make broad statements throwing around numbers with no grounding reality.

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